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    I live in US. I would be trying to do the loan in my name only however my fiancé of 10 years would be a 2nd income (has a recent judgment so not putting her on the loan).

    I have about 7 years history in my line of work.

    My credit score is about 660+. No BK. No charge off. Income is 63k before taxes. But I do have about 400 - 500 monthly debt. 1 car payment, student loan debt and some CC debt that make up that 400+.

    I have not owned a house in 2+ years so I am told I may be considered a first time buyer again.

    I would like to finance 100% and I am looking at houses right around 300k.

    If someone would like to take on this challenge or can recommend someone please let me know.

    Thanks!

  • #2
    This is probably not going to be a forum that will help you with funding. It's not a great time to be a sub-prime real estate loan candidate.

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    • #3
      Since real estate is slowing in many parts of the country, it's probably not a good time to do 100% financing, either! You can't count on quick appreciation, and run the risk of going upside down on your home loan.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pablo9567 View Post
        Income is 63k before taxes.

        I would like to finance 100% and I am looking at houses right around 300k.
        How much does your fiance' earn and what are her debts?

        You can't afford the house on your own income only. That's not to say that the bank won't issue that loan - they probably will as they are ridiculously lenient these days. It just isn't a great idea.
        Steve

        * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
        * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
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        • #5
          There was a time many many years ago that Banks and institutions saved people from themselves by refusing to loan money to them unless they could prove certain criteria.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pablo9567 View Post
            I live in US. I would be trying to do the loan in my name only however my fiancé of 10 years would be a 2nd income (has a recent judgment so not putting her on the loan).

            I have about 7 years history in my line of work.

            My credit score is about 660+. No BK. No charge off. Income is 63k before taxes. But I do have about 400 - 500 monthly debt. 1 car payment, student loan debt and some CC debt that make up that 400+.

            I have not owned a house in 2+ years so I am told I may be considered a first time buyer again.

            I would like to finance 100% and I am looking at houses right around 300k.

            If someone would like to take on this challenge or can recommend someone please let me know.

            Thanks!
            Bank is going to look at front end and back end ratio for you only.

            Front end: % of income to house payment. Looking for high 30's on front end. 300k 30 yr fixed prices at 1822/month (6.125%). ratio of 38% suggests you need to make 4794 (if I did that math correctly 1822/.38)

            Back end: % of income to debt. This should be under 48%. Your debt would be 1822+500 as you suggested. 2322. 2322/.48 suggests income of $4837

            4837*12=58044 net pay per year after taxes is what you need. My suggestion is eliminate the debt to make ratio better. Or buy down the interest rate to reduce the payment.

            If you do 100% LTV (loan to value), look for an 80-20 program.

            80% first mortgage ($225,000) and 20% second ($75,000). This might allow ratios to be manipulated and have you avoid PMI. PMI is private mortgage insurance, and this will be "wasted" money, where as taking out a second on the house allows more money "to work" at paying down mortgage and getting you a tax deduction.

            I would suggest waiting, getting more income, paying off debt and/or fixing wife's credit score. If not, it will be tight getting in, you will not have the best interest rate, either (with little leverage to negotiate). Once you are in the house, it's possible to get a better rate by refinancing and buying down the rate (by paying points).

            If you are looking to buy, it is a buyers market in much of the country. Builders here are discounting options 80% (that's right, first $50,000 in options cost you $10,000). Look and do not jump at anything... patience will give you a good return.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jIM_Ohio View Post
              If you are looking to buy, it is a buyers market in much of the country. Builders here are discounting options 80% (that's right, first $50,000 in options cost you $10,000).
              I don't know where the OP is, but at least in this area (NJ), new homes are insane. There are plenty of nice existing single homes available in the $250,000-$300,000 range, but new homes start around $700,000 and up. As a buyer with no savings and not so good credit, a new home might not be the best choice depending on the local market. A better starter home might be a small older home, a townhome or condo.
              Steve

              * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
              * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
              * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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              • #8
                I feel he should wait and aggressively save for a down payment.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ima saver View Post
                  I feel he should wait and aggressively save for a down payment.
                  That would be my preference too. Buying a home isn't a necessity and it certainly isn't an emergency. Far better to save up 10 or ideally 20% before buying.
                  Steve

                  * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                  * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                  * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                  • #10

                    It is often folly to say "never" but, at the risk of such, I would say that the best time to obtain a home with 100% financing is, quite possibly, never.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ima saver View Post
                      I feel he should wait and aggressively save for a down payment.
                      Complete agreement. I don't think anyone should be a home without at least 3-5% downpayment and a 3 month emergency fund. For me, this would be the bare minimum needed.

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                      • #12
                        I would also wait until your fiance becomes your legal wife before you enter into a legally binding joint agreement like a mortgage.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pablo9567 View Post
                          I live in US. I would be trying to do the loan in my name only however my fiancé of 10 years would be a 2nd income (has a recent judgment so not putting her on the loan).

                          I have about 7 years history in my line of work.

                          My credit score is about 660+. No BK. No charge off. Income is 63k before taxes. But I do have about 400 - 500 monthly debt. 1 car payment, student loan debt and some CC debt that make up that 400+.

                          I have not owned a house in 2+ years so I am told I may be considered a first time buyer again.

                          I would like to finance 100% and I am looking at houses right around 300k.

                          If someone would like to take on this challenge or can recommend someone please let me know.

                          Thanks!
                          By the way, in addition to my suggestions of waiting for at least a 3-5% downpayment and at least a 3 month emergency fund, I would wait until you are at the very least, able to get rid of one of your debts (preferably the CC debt (or whatever is at the highest interest). You make a very nice income, I just don't think you are ready (because of your previous savings/debt) to buy a home yet at this time.

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                          • #14
                            Can I ask why you need to buy a house right now? To me, 100% financing means you can't really afford the house (and if your fiancee is not on the loan documents, guess who gets stuck with it if something goes sour). Is there a problem with saving up for a down payment? DH and I are not able to afford the home we want yet (live in very crazy CA real estate market) but we are saving towards it. I think you'd be better off to wait if possible...just my two cents...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by fairy74 View Post
                              Can I ask why you need to buy a house right now? To me, 100% financing means you can't really afford the house (and if your fiancee is not on the loan documents, guess who gets stuck with it if something goes sour).
                              This is a great point, particularly the part I bolded. If you are buying the house based on your joint incomes, but only your name is going on the loan, you'd be in big trouble if you guys split up.

                              I also question why you need a house, but even if you do want one, if only your name is going on the loan, you should only buy a house that you personally can afford on your income alone. If you earn 63K, that would be no more than about 180K, 3 times income. But even that is too much right now if you have no downpayment.
                              Steve

                              * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                              * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                              * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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