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    I wrote this on another thread but figured it might make for an interesting conversation starter as well. What is the craziest stories you have heard of, or been part of, dealing with money?

    I have a close relative where his wife never made alot of income over the years, around the 30k range. She would use the husbands 40k$ salary, along with hers to keep getting credit cards. She had her bank account, and he had his. They left each other to their own, splitting some of the bills. Over time he racked up some credit card debt, and she racked up even more. Later in life, they handed their oldest son a credit card with apparently a very high limit. They told him to make the payments if he wants to use it, you know be responsible. haha Boy, did he used it. To the tune of 20+k$ over a few years. When he got married, the dad basically picked up the credit card and never made him pay it back. At this same time, he decided to see where he and his wife stand together with debt. This is after two decades of marriage mind you. Altogether they had 120,000$ in credit card debt(including their son) making about 60k$ a year together. They moved in with his mother to help her out as she was getting older, and it helped them out by losing a rent payment. To this day, he is paying on that debt and has come a long way, however, still so behind he'll likely never be able to save up for retirement now after he finishes. He is in his 50s. He only has about 30k$ his job provided over the years on his behalf into a mutual fund.

    Fast forward ten more years from when they brought it all together, and he recently found out the wife had started building up a little credit card debt again! He had to put another stop to it before it got out of hand. Originally, he took all 50-60k$ of her debt and was paying it for her. She barely gave him anything to help. This is why I say you can't borrow your way out of bad habits. You must change if you expect a change. She thought she no longer had a problem, but the truth was she just wasn't allowed access to a card for years. When she finally got one, it started over. This is why I agree with Dave Ramsey that most people should just stop with cards completely. No rewards, no borrowing to use the cash better elsewhere like investments, none of it. It's simply too dangerous.

    Also, the son who never had to take responsibility for his debt continues to make stupid money choices and needs bailing out all the time. One time he literally needed bailing out for a bad check. Ended up getting arrested trying to help a friend get his car out of impound. He had a warrant for the bad check and didn't know it. lol 600$ bail out for a 20$ bounced Domino's check.

    I have more of these stories.....I wasn't kidding when I said most of my family suck with money on another post.
    Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes that reason is you're stupid and make bad choices.

    Current Occupation: Spending every dollar before I die

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    This is why I agree with Dave Ramsey that most people should just stop with cards completely. No rewards, no borrowing to use the cash better elsewhere like investments, none of it. It's simply too dangerous.
    I know a couple of obese people and even people with diabetes. They kept eating sweets, and carbs, and got worse. Some may even die as a result of it. Therefore all people should stop eating any carbs immediately. No birthday cake, nothing. It is simply too dangerous.

    DH and I never carry a balance and swear by the rewards. You'll never convince me because this person on my 600lb life got where they are, I can't ever enjoy a croissant.

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    • #3
      i have a cousin thats really bad off, i dont know his cc numbers but i would think they are aover 100k. he was renting a huge house for $2400, then downgraded to a bedroom in his mother in laws house, then another downgrade to a tool shed in his daughters backyard and now a room in his wifes aunts house

      he cashed out his 401k for 200k and blew it on flooring and furniture for his home in arizona, tools and a new ford truck that he traded in for a bigger badder diesel, financing 30k of it and the stupedist part of it all he had to take a 16k loan for that years tax liability on the 401k


      all of this happening in the past 5 years
      retired in 2009 at the age of 39 with less than 300K total net worth

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      • #4
        A friend of mine is bad off financially. I've posted snippets of his situation in the past. Bankruptcy, several cars repossessed, utilities shut off, are all just some of the things he's gone through in the past 8 years.
        Brian

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nika View Post
          I know a couple of obese people and even people with diabetes. They kept eating sweets, and carbs, and got worse. Some may even die as a result of it. Therefore all people should stop eating any carbs immediately. No birthday cake, nothing. It is simply too dangerous.

          DH and I never carry a balance and swear by the rewards. You'll never convince me because this person on my 600lb life got where they are, I can't ever enjoy a croissant.
          It is so awesome when people take what you say, twist it a little, add a little random non-subject flavor, and boom...prove you wrong! (Not!) haha

          We are talking about finances, not obese people. However, along with your point, I agree most should stay away from those things if they have a problem. Most won't, but they should....IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM. If someone is carrying a balance they should avoid them until it is paid off.

          I just redeemed 105$ in rewards on one of my cards to cover the headphones I recently bought. I didn't say everybody should avoid them, just those who can't control themselves. Keyword in my statement was "MOST." That isn't the same as ALL. I fully believe in the rewards system, but only because I don't carry a balance. I have a lot of emotional scarring from my past mistakes that led to a negative cash flow situation. Due to this I can't stand any loss of cash flow. I don't even have cable/satellite because I don't watch much tv, and Netflix is fine for us. I can't stomach paying 50-70$ a month just for a few hours of mindless garbage. I much prefer only spending 8$(soon to be 10$ thx Netflix ) to watch mindless garbage without commercials.
          Last edited by GoodSteward; 06-21-2016, 06:43 AM.
          Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes that reason is you're stupid and make bad choices.

          Current Occupation: Spending every dollar before I die

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          • #6
            One person I know has a monthly budget of $10,000 and is always asking how to pay for their emergencies that come up or save $200 to put towards their mortgage. When given help they don't want to cut expenses. I call this a "poor" rich friend. Their income is amazing but their spending is way out of whack. They want to have a certain lifestyle yet don't want to make sacrifices to attain that lifestyle.
            ~ Eagle

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Eagle View Post
              "poor" rich friend. Their income is amazing but their spending is way out of whack. They want to have a certain lifestyle yet don't want to make sacrifices to attain that lifestyle.
              I like to label that the reward mentality. They reward their hard work for the money they get with things they want. Like when you do a good job, you reward yourself. They treat their whole income that way. I personally believe it is a lack of responsibility. Plain and simple. They can't tell themselves no.

              And that was for free!
              Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes that reason is you're stupid and make bad choices.

              Current Occupation: Spending every dollar before I die

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              • #8
                I have a friend who can't afford to buy a house because they lack a Down Payment. But they have four kids, 1 income, and make over $100k maybe like $110k and drive a buick escalade new and a BMW sedan. So I'm not sure if they realize they make quite a bit of money even with four kids and can't afford to save for a DP?


                FWIW their parents are helping them buy a house now and gifting the DP. But I still question how they manage to not save anything for a DP.

                Same with another friend who just moved to the area and she was complaining her husband makes around $200k with 4 kids and no DP saved. They can't afford to buy a house. I'm floored. Seriously they can't save a penny.

                For them it's not fancy cars a CRV and Minivan, but I've seen how they spend. They eat out most meals or do take out or fast food. They buy whatever they want whenever and while she doesn't dress nice I think they think nothing of dropping $100 going to target. I mean they don't have a budget and when I asked what do you spend on for food/groceries she has no idea but $400/week is likely since they tried to spend only $400/2 weeks and it was gone in 1 week. She sent her son to school with a lunchable a day.

                Maybe I'm crazy but all these people make super good money and none can save a DP. Except saying their parents will help with it.
                LivingAlmostLarge Blog

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by livingalmostlarge View Post
                  maybe i'm crazy but all these people make super good money and none want to save a dp.
                  ftfy.

                  (Why did vBulletin change "ftfy" from all caps to lower-case??)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nutria View Post
                    ftfy.
                    Bingo!
                    Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes that reason is you're stupid and make bad choices.

                    Current Occupation: Spending every dollar before I die

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                    • #11
                      People's priorities are what it all boils down to IMO. I have some friends who only make in the 40s a year, have 4 kids, no car payment or credit card debt, but are always talking about money trouble. One day I was telling them about the program YNAB, and mentioned how easy it is to reconcile. They replied to me "You reconcile? I haven't done that in years." Then, later in the year, they spend hundreds of dollars a month traveling with a hockey group for their 12 yr old son. They hope he will get a scholarship from it, but in the process, they can't afford to do anything or save anything because it keeps getting dumped into this sport or just blown. No Budget, no desire to change, but doesn't understand why they are always broke. I see that all the time. People don't know why they are broke, but not willing to budget. Here's your sign!
                      Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes that reason is you're stupid and make bad choices.

                      Current Occupation: Spending every dollar before I die

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GoodSteward View Post
                        People's priorities are what it all boils down to IMO. I have some friends who only make in the 40s a year, have 4 kids, no car payment or credit card debt, but are always talking about money trouble. One day I was telling them about the program YNAB, and mentioned how easy it is to reconcile. They replied to me "You reconcile? I haven't done that in years." Then, later in the year, they spend hundreds of dollars a month traveling with a hockey group for their 12 yr old son. ... No Budget, no desire to change, but doesn't understand why they are always broke. I see that all the time. People don't know why they are broke, but not willing to budget. Here's your sign!
                        TBH, for decades, I didn't reconcile either, and DW probably didn't either. Online banking, debit and credit cards and a "check register" spreadsheet make it so easy, though. Now I keep it continuously reconciled.

                        And you're right that it's a sine qua non of good money management.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nutria View Post
                          TBH, for decades, I didn't reconcile either, and DW probably didn't either. Online banking, debit and credit cards and a "check register" spreadsheet make it so easy, though. Now I keep it continuously reconciled.

                          And you're right that it's a sine qua non of good money management.
                          There is no substitute for it, either.

                          One of the worst habits I've seen is the one where people run their finances based on the banks available funds posting. No budgeting, and no ledger. They just keep going off what the bank says. I tried that once years ago and had several overdrafts from it. I see it bite people over and over. "I thought I had enough money." Well, that gas you just got, yeah it only registers 1$ until it posts.

                          "Yur doin it wrong."
                          Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes that reason is you're stupid and make bad choices.

                          Current Occupation: Spending every dollar before I die

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GoodSteward View Post
                            There is no substitute for it, either.

                            One of the worst habits I've seen is the one where people run their finances based on the banks available funds posting. No budgeting, and no ledger. They just keep going off what the bank says. I tried that once years ago and had several overdrafts from it. I see it bite people over and over. "I thought I had enough money." Well, that gas you just got, yeah it only registers 1$ until it posts.

                            "Yur doin it wrong."


                            i have a tenant that is late 10 days every month and she pays me $200 on top her rent for the late fee, she has done it 5 months straight now and doesnt learn. people have to get punched in the face before they figure it out
                            retired in 2009 at the age of 39 with less than 300K total net worth

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                            • #15
                              My sister is selling her house. She has an offer and is waiting to hear how the inspection went. I asked her where she is moving to and she said she didn't know. She isn't even looking yet because she doesn't have a down payment. I hope she doesn't plan on staying here because I'm planning on selling soon, too! Her son is really anxious this summer because he has no idea where he is going to school in a few months.

                              This is the same sister I posted about before. I gave her a copy of The Millionaire Next Door and she and her then-husband went out and bought watches at JC Penney because the book said that the average millionaire owned a cheaper watch from JCP. They wanted to look like millionaires. They were not joking.

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